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Post by Sharon Obermueller on May 29, 2008 21:43:06 GMT -5
I need to inform the house that there are two cheaters playing the game....
Adam and James know each other in real life, their online dating and have met each other before. I know all this because they told me, and we have all spoken on the phone before and I wasn't going to disclose any of this information but they decided to cheat and that's not okay with me.
James logged into Adam's account and posted for Adam during the last HoH so that James or Adam still win because James screwed up on his score. I also know of James giving scores that he got to Adam and one other person in the game and they used it. But the biggest thing is that Adam would have never won that HoH unless James helped him and Amanda would still be here and you never know... one of them could have been evicted.
This disgusts me... because why would people cheat in a game, when it's not even for money. It blows my mind. I'm outraged... and really hurt that they would do this because rightfully so they should be eliminated for cheating and their my allies so it hurts my game. And if their not eliminated it's not okay with me and I might have to quit because I'm not going to play in a game where cheaters get a slap on the wrist and that's it.
Adam and James, I'm sorry for doing this to you, but I want to game to keep its integrity.
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Post by Amanda Hansen on May 29, 2008 21:46:35 GMT -5
Julie that is not fair, I should still be in this game and if they did not help each other in that Head of Household I would of won it.
So I think I should come back as HOH, you can't just give them warnings that is not fair- I won the endurance competition fair and square and you are just ripping it away from me, because it is easier for you as a host?
That is bu.llshit! I don't think a lot of people will continue to play if you do not fix this mistake please don't be an Alison Grodner!
- Bueno.
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Post by Julie Chen on May 30, 2008 13:50:58 GMT -5
The problem is I can't prove they cheated because the IPs are completely different... I can't say for sure they did. Not saying I don't believe you Sharon... I just don't have any proof.
I am going to start watching the IPs more often but if they are different and appear to be from different locations what can I do?
Sharon I am happy you came forward about this... I just don't know how to correct it fairly right now.
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Post by Amanda Hansen on May 30, 2008 15:03:31 GMT -5
JULIE go check in the posting challenge, and make sure they didn't delete any.
And check the IPs of that.
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Post by Julie Chen on May 30, 2008 16:03:25 GMT -5
I checked during the competition, and no posts were deleted. I wish I could help but at this time I have no proof.... James, Adam, will you please post in here?
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Post by . james z i n k a n d | | on May 30, 2008 16:36:21 GMT -5
Of course, Julie. Well, this wouldn't be the first time that Sharon has chosen to lie. The lies I've heard from her have now surpassed being silly. :] "Adam and James, I'm sorry for doing this to you, but I want to game to keep its integrity." I found that statement particularly cute, as what you wrote above it completely contradicted you wanting the game to keep it's integrity. I have spoken on the phone with Sharon, Adam, and Amanda, I'm not going to lie about that. But to say that I'm dating Adam-- online, no doubt, is absolutely absurd and a complete and total lie. For Sharon to call us out like this, well, it was to be expected as being one of her main allies, I did not agree with some of the decisions made. I didn't agree with how she's manipulating Parker in the game, nor did I agree with her going back on what she had agreed to with the other player she's attempting to call out, Adam. I also didn't agree with the fact that Sharon lied to Parker about her sexual preference to make it easier to manipulate Parker. :] It's quite odd how this all appeared after I made it very clear that I didn't approve of Sharon more or less, guiding Parker's hands in his nominations, as they're his to make. But Sharon told me she didn't mind using Parker, less blood on her hands, right? And, Sharon, what was it you told me on the phone? Don't you have Parker's password? Didn't Amanda give it to you or something? :] To say that we were cheating is also a pretty hefty accusation, I thought it was quite cute when Amanda IMed me this morning attempting to get me to say that I cheated, when I didn't. Our IP addresses are different. Innocent until proven guilty, correct? And you can't prove someone guilty if they're innocent. :] That is all.  |
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Post by Amanda Hansen on May 30, 2008 18:28:25 GMT -5
But if the host checks in the competition challenges, for the posting for adam she can see if the IPs all match in their.
If they don't then you have yourself a CHEATER.
And Jacob won the challenge because he is from the pre-jury.
WOW BIASED!
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Post by . james z i n k a n d | | on May 30, 2008 18:51:09 GMT -5
By all means, check IP addresses.
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Post by Sharon Obermueller on May 30, 2008 19:46:41 GMT -5
I love how you manipulated my words James.
You and Adam are dating don't even lie.
I never said Amanda gave me the password, I said Amanda had the password.
And Julie... you can't check IP adresses. You need to go onto the board where Adam's endurance HoH took place and check each individual post. Not in their profile.
James, I love how much a game means to you to go and lie about my personal life to other people not even in the game. Wow.
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Post by Julie Chen on May 30, 2008 19:56:59 GMT -5
I just rechecked every post Adam made during the comp, and Adam's HOH posts match and it is not the same as James's. Jacob didn't get all 5 right on the comp either Amanda, it was actually close.  I'm not trying to pick favorites here, but at the same time I don't feel I can ban someone from the game without being completely sure of what's going on. I'm not trying to offend you either though Sharon. |
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Post by Alex Coladonato on May 30, 2008 20:34:55 GMT -5
Ugh, I don't want to know what is truth and what is lies at this point. No matter what, there is a whole bunch of shady s**t going on, I mean you're all talking over the phone?Not one to judge but that's a little wierd in itself. Good luck everybody.  |
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Post by . james z i n k a n d | | on May 30, 2008 20:46:41 GMT -5
Adam and I are not dating.
I actually laughed when I read that.
Remember when we were on the phone, and you told me that Amanda had prepared a speech for when she was evicted.
Remember, she was going to reveal who you were and she was going to make some claim that Adam and I were dating, and you told me you knew we weren't and we both laughed about it.
But, you're famous for lying about things that were said on the phone, aren't you, dollface? :]
And you definitely told me that Amanda gave you the password.
I don't know why you feel the need to call me a liar when I vividly remember what you told me on the phone. I don't recall lying about your personal life-- only repeating what you've told me. If you've lied to me, and I'm repeating your lies, the blame falls on you. Also, I'm not sure who you're referring to-- or whom you're saying I lied to. As, I've yet to lie to anyone about your personal life.
And, Sharon, darling.
I didn't manipulate anything you said. :]
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Post by Alex Coladonato on May 30, 2008 20:56:45 GMT -5
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Post by . james z i n k a n d | | on May 30, 2008 20:58:50 GMT -5
Alex, you are so very right. xD
OH, AND SHARON.
I was thinking about it..
If I talked to someone that wasn't in the game-- about your personal life, what does that have to do with the game? xD
It wouldn't help my game at all.. xD
Even though I didn't lie about your 'personal' life, I just thought I'd point that out. :]
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Post by Alex Coladonato on May 30, 2008 21:08:01 GMT -5
Even more random and not instigating, but if you don't know each other how would Sharon even have an idea that you [James] lied about her personal life?
This is so confusing, yet it's dramatic...actually, it's getting good!
Jacob, you have the keys to the HoH room, grab some popcorn and let's all watch!
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